. >> rose: or syria. >> syria, syria for the moment, the real emergency is to get rid of basharad and ty bloodbath 30, 40, 50 dead every day. but in libya, in part because of this involvent of the west, in part because of thismage the west gave to the people of libya, it might turn well. >> but there is a lot of competition among diverse groups who are part of the effort to overthrow qaddafi there is competition for power. there is competition for influence. >> like in all democracies. >> but it was a tribal community too. >> yes, but not-- not so much, there is less tribal division today than before. iaw, i was witness on that duri all the time of the war. my feeling is that the common fight, the brotherhoodin battles did reduce the tribe influence. and ielate in the book one gathering of all tribes of libya which was organized of which i was witness and so on. and i saw the overwhelming of this tribal division. so it is not the mainstream, and in the new government which was formed a few days ago, how many islamists and ministers. no one, no one. there is no islamists in the governm